Pay £291,000 or face jail, court tells rogue landlord

Sounds fair, these morons give all of us a bad name.

Now let me see, with all the fantastic choice of nice, reasonably priced rental properties in Waltham Forest, what on earth prompted tenants to rent from this bloke?

..... oh wait - maybe there's actually no choice of decent places to rent? Could that be something caused by 7 years of relentless anti landlord policy?

Of course it is, and the worse the sector gets, the more we'll read these stories. Rogue landlords thrive on human misery and as decent landlords bail out, the gap will be filled by less savoury characters. Well I never ....

And it only 8 years for the Council to get their man!

“Two subsequent property licence applications by Ahmed alerted planning enforcement officers of his failure to comply with the original notices”.. Does this mean Enforcement Officers didn’t follow up their original notice(s) and only when a licence application came in did this get identified?

They didn’t mention if the income was declared and tax paid on it, no mention of deducting any tax already paid from the Bill or whether they are prepared to accept tax from illegal monies.

Be fair, they are Civil Servants and can’t be expected to leave home.

Last post was re. DB’s comments.

£4’000, pounds off for pleading guilty that shouldn’t be allowed it corrupting the legal system it coherence really. There could well be mitigating circumstances like providing much needed accommodation to renters who were willing partners in this activity and the fact it took Council 8 years to take action even though evidence existed that they knew and should have been time barred, established use in some cases is only 4 years.
I suppose no point in referring to lawyers fees been excessive charging thousands of pounds an hour maybe standing around the waiting area for a couple of hours before dealing with half hour appearance.

My comment about Established Use / lawfulness use was a very valid point having been used continuously for more than 4 years but alas no response from this forum, not that I support what he done by any means of Course he should have gone through the planning process. However, Council taking action 8 years after the event has left some unanswered questions. It seems to me his legal team should have done better given that the stakes were so high, or they lacked Planning
Knowledge.

Established use for planning was 5 years and three for building regulations. Unfortunately courts decide on the information before them, they don't investigate the matter. And of course my experience is that lawyers can be economical with the truth. Especially when virtue signalling.

Edwin I believe it’s 4 years for sure, they would have been negotiation with the Council directly and not necessarily get to Court.
I understand it maybe extended back to 10 years in the future.

Micheal my experience with the law is that courts often stretch it and set precedents to be used in future. This may be a case in point. If your brief gives a poor representation in court, it often becomes a fait accompli. You then you have to appeal, of you can afford it, and the original verdict will be used against you.

Edwin, my friend there is a process why mention Courts don’t get involved in all that heavy stuff. I have been there done that but not going into details or generalising, best wishes

The other point you referred to is very true Court Cases something sets a precedents. I have come across that, go to Tribunal under Section 12 to settle your differences not suppose to cost more than £500.00 but fancy lawyers challenge and say its unreasonable behaviour and apply rule 13 with unlimited costs, therefore became Case Law, dare not say any more on this subject.

Micheal, l think In theory it has to be the high court and above that sets precedents. However it does to slip in under a type of custom and practice area. The house of commons is full of lawyers who pass laws, often in an obtuse mamner, often altered and stretched on the courts which then become big fee earners for them. You might be surprised to find that the right to a family life doesn't exist in the (secret) family courts. Further when politicians are manouvering to alter things the police are stopped from getting involved, who are Mon existent when landlords are asking for support.

Well Its all stepping stones you don’t want, you might get progressed outside of your control. First Tier Tribunal, upper Tribunal, Country Courts, High Courts, Royal Court of Justice, you might get a few bob there if you are lucky. I have been to them all, done Jury Service Crown & Old Bailey too.

Should have been Non existent, obviously. Actually the police don't even answer all 999 calls, and a staggering number of callers give up. The police seem preoccupied with policing the Twitterarti and nicking people for hate crime.

• Andrew townshend
• 29 October 2022 12:59 PM

The police of today are simply a waste of space, no point in contacting them.

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Micheal, if you are having problems with fees at a tribunal looking it up ie the rules government legislation on the web will enlighten you.

The Great reset is unfolding. They want us to own nothing. It's as simple as that. No more middle classes.
No difference between the 2 parties. Wake up!

• Andrew townshend
• 29 October 2022 17:29 PM

Spot on there is no difference between the 2 parties, not looking good for our children or grandchildren is it, if I were young in today's Britain I'll be on the first flight out of this place, I know of a few, 20s and 30s good young people who have come to the conclusion, gone, not regretting it and doing well for themselves, good luck to them

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Mmm what about the hate crime against landlords and their children strange how the hate crimes against landlords are never pursued by police,
If the same obscene hate filth that is directed at landlords and their families was used against any other minorities they would be ruthlessly prosecuted to the full extent of the law
But of course we are not human so why would we be foolish enough to expect human rights
I seem to remember the same sort of vicious hate propaganda was used against another minority group 1930 /1940 Germany springs to mind

When Sunik brings in central digital bank currency. Control gone anyway. Want to be cashless.
Watch Neil Oliver GB news 29/10/22 on u tube or GB channel on website. A lovely insite into the future.
May be here sooner than you think . Really worth a listern

• A Bhalla
• 29 October 2022 23:10 PM

Yep 👍, that’s what Sunak’s plan is.
No more Conservative votes 🗳.
Only a party which puts #greatbritainfirst will get my vote 🗳 at the time of next GE.
Certainly not Conservatives if Sunak the sna*e is PM/Chancellor/other role destroying the self employed & future generations of Great Britain.
Best wishes to all.

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Thanks for that