Shock Rent Controls legal judgement - landlords and agents “disappointed”

You should try being in Scotland. It’s an absolute **** show, thanks to Holyrood!

I’m sure. I fear England will go the same way under Labour. They are 100% tenant biased. Landlords will lose their properties forever is not off the cards. Rent being paid or not!

If Labour do go that way and I absolutely believe they will - I do wonder how many Landlords will automatically put their rents up by the max each year when previously they often did not put up rents at all or perhaps every two years etc simply because their choice/flexibility has been taken away?

Catherine. My properties are in Wales where new contracts have already been implemented. I never used to put up rents, but for the last 2 years I have increased all my rents by 10% PA, or rate of inflation dependent on the contract and will now continue to do so in the future.

Catherine. Labour will introduce a rent freeze too!

Cathrine, I am currently raising all my rents from below market value to full market. If a rent freeze comes in I can’t afford not to be at market value and will raise rents as per the max allowed as frequently as allowed.

Raynor is truly an awful woman, a total crowd pleaser, she literally has no concept in anything that she blabs about.

The interview Nick mentioned is on Property 118.

It is entitled "Angela Rayner faces fury from Landlords over Section 21 removal".

Labour don't seem to be going to phase in the loss of Section 21. Section 21 may go straight away - as soon as they take office.

@ Ellie
Ms Rayner told the landlord that no-fault evictions would be abolished immediately under a Labour government.

So we have it from the horse's mouth. Sell now while you can.

I was very surprised that she said that, AL. It is very predictable what will happen.

Is there an intention to deliberately create a housing emergency?

@ Ellie

I am beginning to think it is deliberate. What with this and the marches over Palestine, I am wondering if they are trying to see just how far they can push the public around.

All I know is that she is not acting in the best interests of tenants by saying what she said.

If the Section 21 loss had been phased in over a couple of years then the situation could have been manageable perhaps - still very destructive though.

There is now a very high level of unpredictability about what will happen, perhaps as early as the Spring.

I think you are over analysing this. You are dealing with an ignorant Lefty. A gym slip mum and grandmother at early 40s. She’s all about take take take either on benefits or striking for more from employers. Not about supporting hard working people with anything more than a remote amount of wealth.

Landlords are the Devil.

Don't you think that she has advisers who would point out what will happen? Or are they just all of one mind - support tenants irrespective of the consequences. Still seems a bit odd to me.

Do they perhaps want landlords to serve notice while the Tories are in Government, not when they have taken over?

There are advisers. But all parties seem to have gone pro-tenant. They want to announce more measures than the other party to show they are helping. But it’s really a race to the bottom now. Behind the scenes they know it won’t help but for votes in one way it looks like they are helping.

They do predict some consequences. Of course some are not thought about or were considered to have had less of an impact than they did.

If the Section 21 loss is not going to be phased in, then many landlords' plans will have to change.

I suppose a key question now is what is the most likely date for the next election?

One would have thought January 2025 might be wisest, but if the Tories did better than expected in the May 2024 local elections, then they might call a general election straight away.

If you have already made up your mind to sell then an earlier loss of Section 21 won't matter providing you have got the properties empty.

Another issue though is whether Tory Renters Reform legislation will be in force before the next election. I heard that the review committee has been asked to finish their work by December 5th.

Courts always disagree with the government when it is making decisions preventing the removal of illegal immigrants who are contributing to the housing shortage.

It’s unbelievable in Scotland! I’m out as soon as it’s possible to do so.
1 property sold last month, 9 going soon. Well done Holyrood, Scotlands largest circus!

Already in Liverpool, Students are having to find accommodation in Manchester and commute .

My rents went up by over 30% in June thanks to the shortage of rental properties caused by the SNP and their little Green helpers.

Their next plan is to outlaw rent increases for new tenancies and allow joint tenants to leave with no solutions as to who pays the shortfall, remaining tenants or landlords.

How do you intend to combat it ?

Through human rights legal challenges?

We have been proven to be ineffective against legislation. Well done to the organisations that challenged it in the Scottish Court. But look at the outcome!
I think the only way they will take note is if we keep selling.

I fear we will be ineffective, all politicians hate us ( unless they are landlords ) our only defensive action is to sell !! 💵 Labour will crucify us ☠️☠️

Politicians should be required, as a matter of law, to be circumspect about the consequences of their policies. They cannot adopt a simplistic view that we will increase rights for tenants by giving them security of tenure without examining the consequences of seeking to do that in reality.

Like you, I also keep hoping that it won't be too bad under Labour....I have 2 houses left with good tenants....Im in such a state of worry I can't bring myself to put these on the market, but my gut instinct is to sell, reading today's article and the comments of all these experienced people should really push me to get on and sell!!!!

You're not alone Rebecca. We are all trying to work out the best course of action and the time frame in which to carry out any plan. Of course, existing tenants are a very big concern, as well, particularly when we are on very good terms with them.

Labour hasn't said anything helpful to allay fears and ensure stability for everyone concerned. It looks like Section 21 could go as soon as they take office.

Never a truer word spoken.

You think they could even get a job in the real world?

In fact, the Human Rights Act 1998 can be the basis for ‘illegality’ grounds in a judicial review. Protocol 1 Article 1 perhaps could have been used. Public authorities can restrict what you do with your property but only where they can show it is necessary for the public interest - and there is a housing crisis due to their policies, so not in the public interest.

Another barely literate comment from SBR. The point is, Sandra, those who WORK hard CAN AFFORD these rents. It's people like you who cannot and have to fight for the few available social housing properties.

Don't worry about it Sandra I have no sympathy for you or your sort, agents and landlords will do just fine without you

I've got a suggestion where you never have to deal with unscrupulous landlords and "greedy ' agents.
Look for a property that isn't on the private rental market. Long term Airbnb is an option. But the costs will be 10x that if a rental property and good luck trying to gind one
Or
Buy a tent

What about buying a caravan? That could be cheaper then renting.

The reign in speign falls meignly down the dreign

You hit the nail on the proverbial

Excellent post

Agreed. Me too. I won’t have any control over valuable assets. But some nobody can move in, stay forever, move a zoo in, grow mould everywhere and there’s nothing I can do but keep fixing everything. I predict a lot of landlords running at losses with newly empowered vexatious tenants making life difficult and seeking compensation. Especially when you want to sell and they will lose their home. Even some good tenants will turn bad. Perhaps pushed to do so by councils. It will be much harder for them in years to come to find somewhere else.

The biggest problem we face is that politicians seem to think they can do anything to us using the argument that it is in the public interest.

They do that without any evidence at all that it is in the public interest.

I too am selling, just had my house back after a bailiff evicted a non paying tenant. Had 3 estate agents round and the Norwich house prices seem to be holding up well.
Will give the house a good makeover and then get it on the market.

Andy, I had 2 agents around. I asked about improvements. I could do with a new front door, front bay window, kitchen, flooring throughout and painting throughout. Both advised don't bother people won't pay any more for it.... I've decided to paint myself at weekend (when I can be bothered) and put on the market in the spring.

Yes they have no properties. They just behave like kids.